NEW YORK (AP) 鈥 How many roads must a man walk down to play ?
Quite a few, at least, if you鈥檙e . Off and on for some six years, Chalamet has been obsessively working toward his performance in He has visited Dylan鈥檚 childhood home, learned how to play the guitar (and the harmonica) and immersed himself in the early 鈥60s New York that Dylan emerged out of 鈥 even if much of it has faded with history by now.
鈥淐afe Wha? was funny because they have Jimi Hendrix and Bob Dylan painted along the staircase and everything but now it鈥檚 just, like, Aerosmith covers,鈥 Chalamet says, chuckling. 鈥淚 was like: I don鈥檛 think this is what it was like when Bob was here.鈥
Chalamet has been building his Bob Dylan for so long that he鈥檚 been seen playing Dylan songs while in costume as Willy Wonka and on the set of 鈥淒une.鈥 His 鈥淒une鈥 co-star, (who famously played a fictional Dylan-adjacent folk musician in 鈥淚nside Llewyn Davis鈥), said, 鈥滿y first thought, it sounded like a really bad idea.鈥
Isaac certainly wasn鈥檛 the only one to doubt whether Chalamet, or anyone, could tackle someone as iconic and enigmatic as Dylan. But Chalamet鈥檚 performance 鈥 complete with singing and guitar playing 鈥 in the James Mangold-directed film, which opens in theaters Dec. 25, has drawn near-universal praise.
Chalamet, in an interview, recently spoke about how he navigated the biggest acting challenge of his career.
AP: There might not be a much more daunting undertaking for an actor than playing Dylan. How did you decide you wanted to do it?
CHALAMET: I obviously felt like you can鈥檛 go near that if you鈥檙e not ready to do it. Equally, I had five years to work on this, or six, so there was no truncated process at any point. If you play any real-life figure, it鈥檚 sort of a gift. There鈥檚 the reality of how it happened. But with a musician, your education becomes twofold, or tenfold, because there鈥檚 not only the record of what he went through in his work, but the feeling he can give you as a person 鈥 which for me, with Bob鈥檚 music, was exponential.
AP: Where did you begin?
CHALAMET: Weirdly, it was the press conferences. This came to me in an email in 2018. Bob Dylan, to me, was limited to the good friend of my father鈥檚 in New York, growing up, who had a striking black-and-white portrait of Dylan on his apartment wall. I didn鈥檛 know much of his music. You know, stuff like 鈥淏lowing in the Wind鈥 or 鈥淭ime鈥檚 They Are a-Changin鈥欌 are so enwoven in American culture that, of course, I knew those. I just went up YouTube and before songs popped up, the San Francisco press conference popped up in 鈥65. I was just so fascinated to see an artist who was a definitive figure of the 鈥60s, but who clearly was as much a thinker as he was a forward-facing entertainer.
AP: Did you get anything from the D.A. Pennebaker documentary 鈥楧on鈥檛 Look Back鈥?
CHALAMET: The great thing about 鈥淒on鈥檛 Look Back鈥 is it鈥檚 just really raw. There aren鈥檛 the talking heads. It鈥檚 what鈥檚 great about Suze Rotolo鈥檚 book. It鈥檚 really raw. It鈥檚 more raw than a lot of the other books about Bob Dylan. It鈥檚 very clear-sighted about the young relationship she had with Bob. With an artist of such reverence, it鈥檚 important as an actor not to simply revere him. Then you鈥檒l do justice to the people that already revere him, but to everyone else in the room, they won鈥檛 get it.
AP: When do you first pick up a guitar?
CHALAMET: I picked up a guitar on 鈥淐all Me By Your Name鈥 because I pluck out the chords of a song in that film. So I had, like, a really rudimental experience with that. I think sometime in 2018 I had my first lesson with this great guitar teacher named Larry Saltzman who at some point became less of a teacher and more a co-sanity artist through COVID. I think we were keeping each other sane. We would Zoom three, four times a week and doing songs that never made it into the movie.
AP: What songs did you gravitate toward?
CHALAMET: All of it. I really liked all of it. I like the more intimate songs like 鈥淕irl From the North Country鈥 or 鈥淏oots of Spanish Leather鈥 or 鈥淥ne Too Many Mornings鈥 or 鈥淭omorrow Is a Long Time.鈥 But then I also liked 鈥淣orth Country Blues鈥 and 鈥淩ocks and Gravel鈥 or 鈥淏allad of Hollis Brown鈥 鈥 things where you hear the iron ore in Bob鈥檚 voice, the North Country in Minnesota, the Hibbing.
AP: So much of the movie is about the onset of fame for Dylan and his rejection of the expectations others have for him. Were you able to connect with that experience?
CHALAMET: Yeah, absolutely, in ways that are more unspoken than I could be definitive about. I just do. I don鈥檛 know how to use more words than that. And it was empowering to play someone that really just bucked off all pressure.
AP: You haven鈥檛 met Dylan, but have you thought about what you鈥檇 ask him if you did?
CHALAMET: I think I鈥檇 just say thank you, really. Not thank you for the opportunity to meet, or thank you for the opportunity to play the role. Thank you for his music and his art and his work.
AP: You sound altered by this experience. Did it in some way shift your DNA as an actor?
CHALAMET: I feel changed by the experience. I can鈥檛 speak about the actual film. The process of it, the years long endeavor into it, the dignity in playing something that actually happened. Those were new facets to my experience as an artist. Beyond that, people will make of it what they will, which is totally fair. I think that鈥檚 a great Bob worldview, too. Do with it what you want.
Film Writer Jake Coyle, The Associated Press