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Pioneers in artificial intelligence win the Nobel Prize in physics

STOCKHOLM (AP) 鈥 Two pioneers of artificial intelligence 鈥 John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton 鈥 won the Nobel Prize in physics Tuesday for helping create the building blocks of machine learning that is revolutionizing the way we work and live but also
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This photo combo shows the 2024 Nobel Prize winners in Physics, professor John Hopfield, left, of Princeton University, and professor Geoffrey Hinton, of the University of Toronto, Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2024. (Princeton University via AP and Noah Berger/AP Photo)

STOCKHOLM (AP) 鈥 Two pioneers of artificial intelligence 鈥 John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton 鈥 won the Nobel Prize in physics Tuesday for helping create the building blocks of machine learning that is revolutionizing the way we work and live but also creates new threats for humanity.

Hinton, who is known as is a citizen of sa国际传媒 and Britain who works at the University of Toronto, and Hopfield is an American working at Princeton.

鈥淭hese two gentlemen were really the pioneers,鈥 said Nobel physics committee member Mark Pearce.

The artificial neural networks 鈥 interconnected computer nodes inspired by neurons in the human brain 鈥 the researchers pioneered are used throughout science and medicine and 鈥渉ave also become part of our daily lives," said Ellen Moons of the Nobel committee at the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

Hopfield, whose 1982 work laid the groundwork for Hinton's, told The Associated Press, 鈥淚 continue to be amazed by the impact it has had."

Hinton predicted that AI will end up having a 鈥渉uge influence鈥 on civilization, bringing improvements in productivity and health care.

鈥淚t would be comparable with the Industrial Revolution,鈥 he said in an open call with reporters and officials of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

鈥淲e have no experience of what it鈥檚 like to have things smarter than us. And it鈥檚 going to be wonderful in many respects,鈥 Hinton said.

鈥淏ut we also have to worry about a number of possible bad consequences, particularly the threat of these things getting out of control.鈥

Warning of AI risks

The Nobel committee also mentioned fears about the possible flipside.

Moons said that while it has "enormous benefits, its rapid development has also raised concerns about our future. Collectively, humans carry the responsibility for using this new technology in a safe and ethical way for the greatest benefit of humankind.鈥

, who quit a role at Google so he could speak more freely about the dangers of the technology he helped create, shares those concerns.

鈥淚 am worried that the overall consequence of this might be systems more intelligent than us that eventually take control,鈥 Hinton said.

For his part, Hopfield, who signed early petitions by researchers calling for strong control of the technology, compared the risks and benefits to work on viruses and nuclear energy, capable of helping and harming society. At a Princeton news conference, he made reference to the concerns, bringing up the dystopia imagined in George Orwell's 鈥1984,鈥 or the fictional apocalypse inadvertently created by a Nobel-winning physicist in Kurt Vonnegut鈥檚 鈥淐at鈥檚 Cradle.鈥

Neither winner was home to get the call

Hopfield, who was staying with his wife at a cottage in Hampshire, England, said that after grabbing coffee and getting his flu shot, he opened his computer to a flurry of activity.

鈥淚鈥檝e never seen that many emails in my life,鈥 he said. A bottle of champagne and bowl of soup were waiting, he added, but he doubted there were any fellow physicists in town to join the celebration.

Hinton said he was shocked at the honor.

鈥淚鈥檓 flabbergasted. I had no idea this would happen,鈥 he said when reached by the Nobel committee on the phone. He said he was at a cheap hotel with no internet.

Hinton's work considered 鈥榯he birth鈥 of AI

Hinton, 76, helped develop a technique in the 1980s known as backpropagation instrumental in training machines how to 鈥渓earn" by fine-tuning errors until they disappear. It鈥檚 similar to the way a student learns, with an initial solution graded and flaws identified and returned to be fixed and repaired. This process continues until the answer matches the network鈥檚 version of reality.

Hinton had an unconventional background as a psychologist who also dabbled in carpentry and was genuinely curious about how the mind works, said protege Nick Frosst, who was Hinton鈥檚 first hire at Google鈥檚 AI division in Toronto.

His 鈥減layfulness and genuine interest in answering fundamental questions I think is key to his success as a scientist,鈥 Frosst said.

Nor did he stop at his pioneering 1980s work.

鈥淗e鈥檚 been consistently trying out crazy things and some of them work very well and some of them don鈥檛,鈥 Frosst said. 鈥淏ut they all have contributed to the success of the field and galvanized other researchers to try new things as well.鈥

Hinton's team at the University of Toronto wowed peers by using a neural network to win the prestigious ImageNet computer vision competition in 2012. That spawned a flurry of copycats and was 鈥渁 very, very significant moment in hindsight and in the course of AI history,鈥 said Stanford University computer scientist and .

鈥淢any people consider that the birth of modern AI,鈥 she said.

Hinton and fellow AI scientists Yoshua Bengio and Yann LeCun won computer science鈥檚 top prize, the Turing Award, in 2019.

鈥淔or a long time, people thought what the three of us were doing was nonsense,鈥 Hinton told told the AP in 2019. "My message to young researchers is, don鈥檛 be put off if everyone tells you what you are doing is silly.鈥

Many of Hinton's former students and collaborators followed him into the tech industry as it began capitalizing on AI innovations, and some started their own AI companies, including Frosst's Cohere and ChatGPT maker OpenAI. Hinton said he uses machine learning tools in his daily life.

鈥淲henever I want to know the answer to anything, I just go and ask GPT-4,鈥 Hinton said at the Nobel announcement. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 totally trust it because it can hallucinate, but on almost everything it's a not-very-good expert. And that鈥檚 very useful.鈥

Physics prize for pioneer AI work is significant

Hopfield, 91, created an associative memory that can store and reconstruct images and other types of patterns in data, the Nobel committee said.

Just as Hinton came to the field from psychology, Hopfield stressed how cutting edge science comes from crossing the borders of scientific fields like physics, biology and chemistry instead of researchers staying in their lane. It's why this prize is a physics prize, he said, pointing out that his neural network borrows from condensed matter physics.

With big complex problems in scientific fields, 鈥渋f you are not motivated by physics, you just don't tackle the class of problems,鈥 Hopfield said.

While there's no Nobel for computer science, Li said that awarding a traditional science prize to AI pioneers is significant and shows how boundaries between disciplines have blurred.

Disagreement on AI risks

Not all of their peers agree with the Nobel laureates about the risks of the technology they helped create.

Frosst has had many 鈥渟pirited debates鈥 with Hinton about AI鈥檚 risks and disagrees with some of Hinton鈥檚 warnings but not his willingness to publicly address them.

鈥淢ostly we disagree on timescale and on the particular technology that he鈥檚 sounding the alarm on,鈥 Frosst said. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 think that neural nets and language models as they exist today pose an existential risk.鈥

Bengio, who has long sounded alarms about AI risks, said what really alarms him and Hinton is 鈥渓oss of human control鈥 and whether AI systems will act morally when they're smarter than humans.

鈥淲e don鈥檛 know the answer to these questions,鈥 he said. "And we should make sure we do before we build those machines.鈥

Asked whether the Nobel committee might have factored in Hinton鈥檚 warnings when deciding on the award, Bengio dismissed that, saying 鈥渨e鈥檙e talking about very early work when we thought that everything would be rosy.鈥

Six days of Nobel announcements opened Monday with Americans Victor Ambros and Gary Ruvkun winning the medicine prize. They continue with the chemistry prize Wednesday and literature on Thursday. The Nobel Peace Prize will be announced Friday and the economics award on Oct. 14.

The prize ($1 million) from a bequest left by the award's creator, Swedish inventor Alfred Nobel. The laureates are invited to receive their awards at ceremonies on Dec. 10, the anniversary of Nobel鈥檚 death.

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O'Brien reported from Providence, Rhode Island. Borenstein reported from Washington. AP reporters Mike Corder at The Hague, Netherlands; Adithi Ramakrishnan in New York and Kelvin Chan in London contributed.

Daniel Niemann, Seth Borenstein And Matt O'brien, The Associated Press