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JD Vance's Catholicism helped shape his views. So did this little-known group of Catholic thinkers

By his own account, Ohio Sen. JD Vance鈥檚 2019 conversion to Catholicism provided a spiritual fulfillment he couldn鈥檛 find in his Yale education or career success. It also amounted to a political conversion.
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FILE - Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, speaks at a campaign event in Erie, Pa., Aug. 28, 2024. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar, File)

By his own account, Ohio Sen. JD Vance鈥檚 2019 conversion to Catholicism provided a spiritual fulfillment he couldn鈥檛 find in his Yale education or career success.

It also amounted to a political conversion.

Catholicism provided him a new way of looking at the addictions, family breakdowns and other social ills he described in his 2016 bestselling memoir, 鈥淗illbilly Elegy.鈥

鈥淚 felt desperate for a worldview that understood our bad behavior as simultaneously social and individual, structural and moral; that recognized that we are products of our environment; that we have a responsibility to change that environment, but that we are still moral beings with individual duties,鈥 he wrote in .

His conversion also put Vance in close touch with a Catholic intellectual movement, viewed by some critics as having reactionary or authoritarian leanings, that has been little known to the American public until Vance鈥檚 rise to the national stage as the Republican vice presidential nominee.

These are not your father鈥檚 Catholic conservatives.

The professors and media personalities in this network don鈥檛 all agree on everything 鈥 even on what to call themselves 鈥 but most go by 鈥減ostliberal.鈥 Vance has , though the Trump-Vance campaign did not respond to questions about where Vance sees himself in the movement and whether he shares some of the beliefs promoted by many postliberals.

Postliberals do share some longstanding Catholic conservative views, such as opposition to abortion and LGBTQ+ rights.

But where Catholic conservatives of the past have seen big government as a problem rather than a solution, the postliberals want a muscular government 鈥 one that they control.

They envision a counterrevolution in which they would take over government bureaucracy and institutions like universities from within, replacing entrenched 鈥渆lites鈥 with their own and acting upon their vision of the 鈥渃ommon good.鈥

鈥淲hat is needed 鈥 is regime change 鈥 the peaceful but vigorous overthrow of a corrupt and corrupting liberal ruling class and the creation of a postliberal order,鈥 wrote Patrick Deneen, a prominent author in the movement, in his 2023 book, 鈥淩egime Change.鈥

Vance has signaled his alignment with some of what Catholic postliberals advocate. He鈥檚 said the next time his allies control the or Congress, 鈥 when it comes to the exercise of power鈥 and said Republicans should 鈥渢o make them work for our people.鈥 He鈥檚 advocated for government , a notion reflected in at 鈥渃hildless cat ladies鈥 with allegedly no stake in America鈥檚 future.

Scholars who study this movement caution that Vance does his own thinking and doesn鈥檛 necessarily embrace everything proposed by postliberals 鈥 or by a subset of them known as integralists, who want a state working in tandem with the Catholic Church. The latter is not a label Vance has used for himself.

But Vance has spoken alongside prominent postliberals at public events and praised some of their work.

At an featuring a who鈥檚 who of Catholic postliberals in 2022, he told fellow speakers he has 鈥渁dmired a lot of you from afar鈥 as 鈥渟ome of the people who I think are most interesting about what鈥檚 going on in this country.鈥

Vance praised Deneen鈥檚 book at a with the author, a professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame.

Vance has also met privately with leading postliberals, who have of their gatherings and cheered his vice presidential nomination.

Catholic journals for years have bristled with debates about postliberalism, but with little public attention 鈥 in part because its adherents are few and its views are far from mainstream.

But now, postliberals have an avid listener in Donald Trump鈥檚 running mate.

鈥淵ou can go from people writing on an unusual Catholic theology blog to the vice presidential candidate in the course of less than a decade,鈥 said James Patterson, professor of politics at Ave Maria University in Florida.

Vance鈥檚 preoccupations show an influence from the movement, he said, citing his remarks about the childless.

鈥淢ost ordinary American Catholics would not treat a childless single woman with cats with this kind of contempt,鈥 Patterson said. Even if Vance is not steeped in the philosophy, Patterson added, 鈥渉e is picking up on the postliberal vibe.鈥

Some Catholics, including conservatives, have raised alarms about the company Vance has kept, saying postliberalism has historical connections to 20th century European movements that are associated with authoritarian regimes like Francisco Franco's in Spain.

鈥淲e鈥檙e talking about people that prefer right-wing authoritarian regimes,鈥 Patterson said.

In a postliberal society, Patterson wrote , citizens become 鈥渟ubjects鈥 and personal liberties subjected to 鈥渁dministrative despotism.鈥

Vance has recently tried to downplay his Catholicism鈥檚 impact on policy-making.

Trump鈥檚 Supreme Court appointees provided the crucial majority to overturn Roe v. Wade, which had legalized abortion nationwide. But the issue has become a political liability, with voters in several states rejecting abortion restrictions.

Vance had strongly opposed abortion, in the runup to his 2022 senatorial win, saying at one point that 鈥渢wo wrongs don鈥檛 make a right鈥 when referring to exceptions for rape and incest. The campaign said in an email Wednesday that he supports 鈥渞easonable鈥 exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother.

But Vance has aligned with the Republicans鈥 in 2024, in which it backed off from its longstanding support for nationwide abortion restrictions. He pledged he could 鈥渁bsolutely commit鈥 that a Trump-Vance administration would not impose such an abortion ban.

Trump has spoken inconsistently about a ballot measure repealing Florida鈥檚 ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy.

After facing backlash from anti-abortion activists for seeming to indicate he would support the measure, Trump .

The Catholic Church鈥檚 U.S. bishops declared opposing abortion 鈥渙ur pre-eminent priority.鈥

Vance in August that Catholic social teaching 鈥渃ertainly influences how I think about issues.鈥 But he acknowledged 鈥渢here are a lot of things the Catholic Church teaches that frankly, Americans would just never go for.鈥

He added that in a democracy, 鈥測ou have to give people their ability to have their own moral views reflected in public policy. There are a lot of non-Catholics in America and I accept that.鈥

Julian Waller, a political science professor at George Washington University, said Vance has numerous influences outside of Catholic postliberalism 鈥 from Trump-style populists to his mentor, tech billionaire Peter Thiel.

It remains to be seen whether Catholic postliberals would get prominent appointments in a Trump-Vance administration 鈥 or even how often they鈥檇 get their calls returned.

鈥淪omeone like JD Vance can read them, be interested in them, attend talks, know them personally, get insights from them,鈥 Waller said. 鈥淏ut he鈥檚 not on the hook to obey them.鈥

For an example of what an administration using state power for postliberal ends might look like, Waller pointed to Florida and Gov. Ron DeSantis鈥 efforts to rid public higher education of diversity initiatives and critical race theory.

鈥淚f you want the model for what someone like JD Vance is really interested in, it鈥檚 probably the Florida model, forcefully changing institutions, capturing institutions,鈥 Waller said.

Postliberals鈥 ideas vary, but there are common themes, said Kevin Vallier, author of 鈥 ,鈥 a 2023 book on the modern postliberal and integralist movements and their centuries-old roots.

Depending on who鈥檚 talking, a postliberal regime change could involve encouraging childbearing, easing or removing church-state separation, banning pornography for adults and children alike, reimposing laws limiting business on the Sabbath, supporting private-sector unions and strengthening safety nets for the middle class.

It鈥檚 common to hear postliberals praising Hungary鈥檚 nationalist prime minister, , particularly for his use of financial incentives for families that have more babies. Orban has championed an 鈥痺hich includes restrictions on鈥 and .

Vance has praised Orban for with children and for 鈥渟mart decisions鈥 in seizing control of universities.

Vance has echoed the regime-change rhetoric of using government, staffed by likeminded officials, for postliberal goals.

鈥淵ou need to have a functional state that accomplishes some of the things that we care about. You need good people to go and work in that functional state,鈥 Vance said a 2022 conference at Franciscan University of Steubenville, Ohio. It featured prominent postliberals like Deneen and Harvard Law School professor Adrian Vermeule.

Vermeule has advocated for 鈥渃ommon-good constitutionalism,鈥 in which the government enacts 鈥渟trong rule in the interest of attaining the common good.鈥

Deneen and Vermeule declined requests for interviews.

Vance鈥檚 choice to speak at Steubenville underscored his affinity with postliberals, Vallier said.

鈥淗e could have given that talk anywhere,鈥 said Vallier, a professor at the Institute of American Constitutional Thought and Leadership at the University of Toledo in Ohio. 鈥淲hy is he appearing with these intellectuals if he's not sympathetic to their ideas?鈥

Vance鈥檚 religious journey began in a family that rarely went to church when he was young, he wrote in 鈥淗illbilly Elegy.鈥 But he said his grandmother 鈥 the most stable adult in his turbulent household 鈥 regularly read the Bible and taught a Christianity that demanded hard work, forgiveness and hope.

For a time, the young JD embraced the strict biblical literalism of his father鈥檚 Pentecostal church, crediting it as a stabilizing force, he wrote.

But in college, Vance embraced what he later viewed as an arrogant and fashionable atheism.

Eventually, he wrote in a 2020 essay for the Catholic journal The Lamp, he concluded he 鈥渘eeded grace鈥 to provide him the virtues to be a good husband and father.

鈥淚 needed, in other words, to become Catholic," he wrote.

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Associated Press religion coverage receives support through the AP鈥檚 with The Conversation US, with funding from Lilly Endowment Inc. The AP is solely responsible for this content.

Peter Smith And Michelle R. Smith, The Associated Press